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	<title>Comments on: How Does Lightning Source Compare to Lulu and Createspace?</title>
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		<title>By: Shannon Yarbrough</title>
		<link>http://llbookreview.com/2009/06/how-does-lightning-source-compare-to-lulu-and-createspace/comment-page-1/#comment-6097</link>
		<dc:creator>Shannon Yarbrough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 12:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Gina-

LS is a heavy distributor which mainly services other heavy distributors like Ingram.  I don&#039;t think they offer any of the services you are inquiring about.  The best bet would be to invest in stock yourself and set up your own site and take payment using Paypal.  Or have a paypal link on your author blog.  Or send people to Amazon.  Amazon is still the most trusted source for online book buying and a name that readers recognize.

The perks to LS is it can get your foot in the door of traditional bookstores without you having to do much of the foot work.  It also makes your book returnable, which is important to bookstores.  They hate to invest in stock that they&#039;d be stuck with if it doesn&#039;t sell. 

Keep in mind that using LS is indeed a time and financial investment.  Give it serious thought.  It may not be right for you.

Thanks,
Shannon
LLBR</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Gina-</p>
<p>LS is a heavy distributor which mainly services other heavy distributors like Ingram.  I don&#8217;t think they offer any of the services you are inquiring about.  The best bet would be to invest in stock yourself and set up your own site and take payment using Paypal.  Or have a paypal link on your author blog.  Or send people to Amazon.  Amazon is still the most trusted source for online book buying and a name that readers recognize.</p>
<p>The perks to LS is it can get your foot in the door of traditional bookstores without you having to do much of the foot work.  It also makes your book returnable, which is important to bookstores.  They hate to invest in stock that they&#8217;d be stuck with if it doesn&#8217;t sell. </p>
<p>Keep in mind that using LS is indeed a time and financial investment.  Give it serious thought.  It may not be right for you.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Shannon<br />
LLBR</p>
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		<title>By: Shannon Yarbrough</title>
		<link>http://llbookreview.com/2009/06/how-does-lightning-source-compare-to-lulu-and-createspace/comment-page-1/#comment-6095</link>
		<dc:creator>Shannon Yarbrough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 12:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Raj-

Thank you for your comments.  The extended distribution CS now offers came available after we posted this original post in 2009.  I have to admit I have not investigated, nor heard from any authors, how it is working out or if it works at all.

It is practically impossible to get any POD book into a library unless you work with your own local branch, possibly set up a signing there, and/or donate copies of your book to them.

-Shannon
LLBR</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Raj-</p>
<p>Thank you for your comments.  The extended distribution CS now offers came available after we posted this original post in 2009.  I have to admit I have not investigated, nor heard from any authors, how it is working out or if it works at all.</p>
<p>It is practically impossible to get any POD book into a library unless you work with your own local branch, possibly set up a signing there, and/or donate copies of your book to them.</p>
<p>-Shannon<br />
LLBR</p>
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		<title>By: Raj</title>
		<link>http://llbookreview.com/2009/06/how-does-lightning-source-compare-to-lulu-and-createspace/comment-page-1/#comment-6088</link>
		<dc:creator>Raj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 11:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I forgot to mention cs price is for 7 x 10 that is more value</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot to mention cs price is for 7 x 10 that is more value</p>
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		<title>By: Raj</title>
		<link>http://llbookreview.com/2009/06/how-does-lightning-source-compare-to-lulu-and-createspace/comment-page-1/#comment-6087</link>
		<dc:creator>Raj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 11:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even with volume Lulu cannot match cs pro on price (for pod create space is very low on price)-  I give comparison 6 x9 full color book 97 pages

LULU
Retail Print  	Your Revenue  	$5.36  (cost 40.13)	Price  	$45.49 
Print 	       Your Revenue 	       17.27 (cost 28.22)	Price 	$45.49
For quantity order of 50 books  8 - 15% discount currently

CS  $13.27
CS Pro $7.57  pirce same $45.49
selling through amazon total cost  31.47/ pro 25.77
CS E-store  total cost 22.37/ pro 16.67
Hope this is helpful


I dont know how to get into libraries, as I own my isbn- it is not possible in cs pro</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even with volume Lulu cannot match cs pro on price (for pod create space is very low on price)-  I give comparison 6 x9 full color book 97 pages</p>
<p>LULU<br />
Retail Print  	Your Revenue  	$5.36  (cost 40.13)	Price  	$45.49<br />
Print 	       Your Revenue 	       17.27 (cost 28.22)	Price 	$45.49<br />
For quantity order of 50 books  8 &#8211; 15% discount currently</p>
<p>CS  $13.27<br />
CS Pro $7.57  pirce same $45.49<br />
selling through amazon total cost  31.47/ pro 25.77<br />
CS E-store  total cost 22.37/ pro 16.67<br />
Hope this is helpful</p>
<p>I dont know how to get into libraries, as I own my isbn- it is not possible in cs pro</p>
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		<title>By: Raj</title>
		<link>http://llbookreview.com/2009/06/how-does-lightning-source-compare-to-lulu-and-createspace/comment-page-1/#comment-6082</link>
		<dc:creator>Raj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 11:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to include- this that I noticed in Create space-Pro
$39 Pro fee
$9.57 proof
TOTAL $48.57 Cost per 360-page book ($0.85 + $0.012/pg) $5.72.

But if you do  pro fee  transaction separately first
Then your proof copy would be $5.72 and not 9.57</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to include- this that I noticed in Create space-Pro<br />
$39 Pro fee<br />
$9.57 proof<br />
TOTAL $48.57 Cost per 360-page book ($0.85 + $0.012/pg) $5.72.</p>
<p>But if you do  pro fee  transaction separately first<br />
Then your proof copy would be $5.72 and not 9.57</p>
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		<title>By: Gina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2010 21:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A newbie here: can people order single issues that will be shipped to them from Lightning source? I am assuming they don&#039;t have a webpage like other pod&#039;s do (Createspace and Lulu) where you can send people to buy your books. If I set up my own webpage for people to order the book will Lightningsource ship say a single book to them? And if so how would I link up the my webpage to Lightningsource to do this? 

There is a cover generator with the ISBN number where they ask for the price.. how do I determine the price. I didn&#039;t see a price calculator (for my fee, Lightning sources fee and retail mark up) on the website so how do I know what to put on it? Do they have a price calculator or list? 
When you have a price for your ISBN bar code (however I get that? see above...) do you put the price for that you pay on it, and then amazon will add their price to it, or do I put the total retail markup on it? 
Can they put a barcode on with the price for you?

And, I can&#039;t figure out the PDF submissions. I have a color cover and all color insides, do I make one PDF that has the front and back called cvr,pdf? And then what is the middle called? 

I also don&#039;t know what to pick for retail discount, I read if you go to low they won&#039;t pick you up. How do I choose and when does Lightning source ask for this. 

P.S. if my book is 7x10 and it&#039;s a graphic novel that I want to print all the way to the edge, what information do I put in for trim etc.? It is exactly how I want it right now at 7x10... 

P.P.S. if I want to sell through Ingram, amazon all retailers, library exposure and individual sales do I pick this one? http://www.lightningsource.com/print_to_publisher.aspx

Thank you! Gina</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A newbie here: can people order single issues that will be shipped to them from Lightning source? I am assuming they don&#8217;t have a webpage like other pod&#8217;s do (Createspace and Lulu) where you can send people to buy your books. If I set up my own webpage for people to order the book will Lightningsource ship say a single book to them? And if so how would I link up the my webpage to Lightningsource to do this? </p>
<p>There is a cover generator with the ISBN number where they ask for the price.. how do I determine the price. I didn&#8217;t see a price calculator (for my fee, Lightning sources fee and retail mark up) on the website so how do I know what to put on it? Do they have a price calculator or list?<br />
When you have a price for your ISBN bar code (however I get that? see above&#8230;) do you put the price for that you pay on it, and then amazon will add their price to it, or do I put the total retail markup on it?<br />
Can they put a barcode on with the price for you?</p>
<p>And, I can&#8217;t figure out the PDF submissions. I have a color cover and all color insides, do I make one PDF that has the front and back called cvr,pdf? And then what is the middle called? </p>
<p>I also don&#8217;t know what to pick for retail discount, I read if you go to low they won&#8217;t pick you up. How do I choose and when does Lightning source ask for this. </p>
<p>P.S. if my book is 7&#215;10 and it&#8217;s a graphic novel that I want to print all the way to the edge, what information do I put in for trim etc.? It is exactly how I want it right now at 7&#215;10&#8230; </p>
<p>P.P.S. if I want to sell through Ingram, amazon all retailers, library exposure and individual sales do I pick this one? <a href="http://www.lightningsource.com/print_to_publisher.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.lightningsource.com/print_to_publisher.aspx</a></p>
<p>Thank you! Gina</p>
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		<title>By: Shannon Yarbrough</title>
		<link>http://llbookreview.com/2009/06/how-does-lightning-source-compare-to-lulu-and-createspace/comment-page-1/#comment-1843</link>
		<dc:creator>Shannon Yarbrough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Brandon-

This is information cross-posted from the post from Penumbra Publishing in June.  Follow the link in the article to be redirected or contact Penumbra Publishing directly.

Thanks,
Shannon
LLBR</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Brandon-</p>
<p>This is information cross-posted from the post from Penumbra Publishing in June.  Follow the link in the article to be redirected or contact Penumbra Publishing directly.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Shannon<br />
LLBR</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon Gene Petit</title>
		<link>http://llbookreview.com/2009/06/how-does-lightning-source-compare-to-lulu-and-createspace/comment-page-1/#comment-1831</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandon Gene Petit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 00:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where do you see that a block of 10 ISBN numbers is only forty dollars? I checked on the Bowker site and a block of 10 costs way more... like in the hundreds. A single ISBN from Bowker, without the barcode, is said to cost $120. Does Lightning Source offer a cheaper ISBN package? Or was that merely the Bowker price at the particular time?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where do you see that a block of 10 ISBN numbers is only forty dollars? I checked on the Bowker site and a block of 10 costs way more&#8230; like in the hundreds. A single ISBN from Bowker, without the barcode, is said to cost $120. Does Lightning Source offer a cheaper ISBN package? Or was that merely the Bowker price at the particular time?</p>
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		<title>By: Linda Austin</title>
		<link>http://llbookreview.com/2009/06/how-does-lightning-source-compare-to-lulu-and-createspace/comment-page-1/#comment-1048</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 01:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lightning Source also occasionally offers special deals, so keep an eye out for those through their website if you choose them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lightning Source also occasionally offers special deals, so keep an eye out for those through their website if you choose them.</p>
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		<title>By: gwenmccauley</title>
		<link>http://llbookreview.com/2009/06/how-does-lightning-source-compare-to-lulu-and-createspace/comment-page-1/#comment-1041</link>
		<dc:creator>gwenmccauley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 22:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing about ISBN that Canadian authors s/b aware of.  Each of us can create an account FOR FREE with the Canadian government and get all the ISBN&#039;s we want/need, again FOR FREE.  Visit http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/isn/index-e.html for more info.

When I got my ISBN I was also surprised to get a bar code included in the price ...again FOR FREE!  My buddy who bought his bar code privately paid over $40 for it.

Love it when I see my tax dollars working for me!

Gwen McCauley
www.ouicoach.com
Follow me on www.twitter.com/gwenmccauley and www.linkedin.com/in/gwenmccauley</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing about ISBN that Canadian authors s/b aware of.  Each of us can create an account FOR FREE with the Canadian government and get all the ISBN&#8217;s we want/need, again FOR FREE.  Visit <a href="http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/isn/index-e.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/isn/index-e.html</a> for more info.</p>
<p>When I got my ISBN I was also surprised to get a bar code included in the price &#8230;again FOR FREE!  My buddy who bought his bar code privately paid over $40 for it.</p>
<p>Love it when I see my tax dollars working for me!</p>
<p>Gwen McCauley<br />
<a href="http://www.ouicoach.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.ouicoach.com</a><br />
Follow me on <a href="http://www.twitter.com/gwenmccauley" rel="nofollow">http://www.twitter.com/gwenmccauley</a> and <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/gwenmccauley" rel="nofollow">http://www.linkedin.com/in/gwenmccauley</a></p>
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